
With U.S. troops potentially on the ground and Iran weakened, the panel debates a critical question: leave now or finish the job? From regime change risks to long-term consequences, they break down whether ending the threat is worth deeper involvement.
13 US troops?
I believe so.
Let me double-check.
I think the number is 13, 2 over the weekend, if I'm not mistaken.
Correct.
It was 11 on Friday.
One is too many.
One is too many.
But I think we're at 13 right now.
So it is one of the options and choices he had to put troops on the ground.
The people that don't want it, can they criticize him?
Absolutely.
The people that voted for him, if this is a choice that he had to use, because right now you have one of two choices.
You either leave right now
and you delay the issue later on for somebody else, or if you're already in too deep, guess what?
Finish the job.
Which one do you want him to do?
Where are you at?
Like, really, I'm asking you, Vinny,
right now, would you want him to leave?
He can't leave.
No, he has to finish it.
You're an advisor.
You're in the room.
But there's not a right or wrong answer to this question.
It's just where you are.
And by the way, run this poll, Rob.
Okay, right now you're in the Situation Room, and not even that, he just calls you.
Vinny, I saw you on the podcast the other day.
Yes.
Okay, what do you think we should do?
Should we— we've taken out their— we've taken out this, we've taken out 50 people.
The son is left, but his right shoulder, his leg is gone.
Bad situation.
He might be gay according to the new recent reports that came out.
What?
Yes.
Anyway, so these type of stuff that's going on.
But do you think we should get out and just claim victory, or do you think we should stay and finish the job?
No, you have to stay and finish the job.
But be clear, and I understand what you're saying about the, you know, the mission, and I do trust his instincts, but it's the being honest of it was about— this is what I thought—
it was about, Mr.
President, the Iranians in the streets dying because they wanted a revolution, and then it shifted to, no, we have to take out all the nuclear capabilities.
I thought we already did that.
So now my question is, what about those people?
Where— how was the objective?
Because I'm trying to think objectively militarily.
The Strait, Hormuz, oil, that's huge now.
That's a different, you know, phase of it.
It's the leadership, the guy that we just saw, the Ayatollah package.
I don't see them stopping because here's my thing.
We kill the Ayatollah, we get rid of the loudmouth guy that is lying to everybody.
Then what?
Because what just happened?
Reza Pahlavi was just like, hey, I'm going to be the official, what do they call him?
Transitional leader.
Transitional leader after you guys get rid of all the Khomeini.
They're not going to stop.
After the regime falls.
I don't see them stopping.
So you're telling me.
You're telling me finish the job?
Finish the job.
And I was going to say, when Tom was talking about the drones and the— we know, okay, so let me ask you a question, Vinnie.
Yeah, this last part, I have to send 2,500 troops to finish the job.
Hurry up then, go do it.
And mind you, this is amphibious on Chad.
Yes, we're not overtaking— I want people to understand, we're not going to Iran to go kill people.
So let— on a military standpoint, don't put— oh, he's going to send them to die.
No, this is a expeditionary force that's going to go there and guard the island and maybe shut it off.
That's a whole different— we're not invading like we're invading Iraq.
I would say that, Mr.
President, finish the job, because what it's seeing, what seems like it's going to last probably a couple of months, maybe 6 months, which people don't want that.
We were told weeks.
It's almost like stop the spread.
Remember the 6-week spread of COVID No, it's— we want this.
I want it, Pat.
Done as soon as possible with the least amount of Americans dead.
You nailed it, Pat.
One is too many.
I'm with you.
That's what I would say.
Adam, finish your job as president.
First and foremost, I trust Trump's instincts.
So, you know, instincts are great, but they're at the very beginning.
You know, they say— what's the famous Mike Tyson phrase?
Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
We didn't punch Iran in the mouth.
We beat the living crap out of them.
And much like an NFL game, all right, now we're at halftime and each team is making adjustments.
So Trump's sitting there with Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio and Scott Best, and he goes, dude, we're up 35 to 2.
We have an unforced error on a safety.
We're kicking their butt.
What adjustments do we need to make?
We're not losing this game, okay?
It's just a matter of how much are we going to win by.
On the flip side, Iran is in their locker room halftime.
They're like, dude, we're down 35 to 2.
We're going to do a Hail Mary.
What do we want to do, dude?
Let's start bombing our neighbors.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Hey, let's close down the Strait of Hormuz and affect the global economy.
Okay, we're still down 35 to 2.
So Trump, we're looking at him, uh, you know, this started with Scott Bessin.
He didn't know what was going on.
The, the game has changed.
Like, it— we're not where we were a month ago when they started this thing.
So now the game has to continue.
So two things can be true at once.
We don't want endless wars.
We know that.
But at the same time, we also don't want endless threats.
And threats could lead to catastrophes from Iran.
So we've already made our bed.
Now we need to line it.
We're eliminating the threat.
And it's a multifaceted threat.
Why are we doing this?
It's because they kill their own people.
It's because they have nuclear threats.
Because they're funding jihadi terrorists all over the region.
There's multiple reasons here.
But we have their foot on their neck.
And what are we going to say?
Well, we've had enough.
At the end of the day, there's going to be a winner and loser here, and United States and Trump is going to win.
Well, let me ask you a question, Adam.
Like, we're like— and I'm being honest, we've had this conversation— you're going to have to go in there and kill every single leader, IRGC.
You have to just get it over with.
But my question is, we do that, they're going to keep popping up.
Those guys are not going to quit, bro.
If your ideology is kill all these people.
And if I kill myself, I'm going to go get virgins in heaven with Allah.
That's a crazy mindset.
So my thing is, you got to go and kill all of them.
Go get it over with.
Get it over with.
I don't— I don't— 3,500 votes.
3,500 votes.
69 says stay in and finish the job.
31 says get out of Iran and claim victory.
That's the number right now.
69.
So 70-30 issues where it's at right now.
And that's what our audience— yeah, if you think about that, that's what our— that's a great That's what our audience— can I add one thing?
I hear what you're saying.
We gotta go, we gotta kill all of them.
To me, that is an extreme outcome.
Why?
So we're not just gonna go kill a half a million IRGC.
That's just not what we're gonna do.
At the end of the day, the people of Iran have to figure this out.
Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
I have to push back.
You're saying they gotta figure it out?
That is not an easy task to ask civilians.
It's on them, bro.
No, it's not.
We just took out all their freaking leaders.
We gave them the best
possible help we can possibly give them.
No, I, I disagree.
Their leadership, we're taking out their infrastructure.
Every single revolution starts with the inside out.
Did we ask the French to go help us beat the British, or did we have to do it?
Okay, at the end of the day, the, the Iranian people are going to have to step up.
The regional actors are going to have to step up.
Yes, we're going to help.
Yes, our allies are going to help.
Yes, Israel and the United States Air Force are decimating them.
But the end of the day, they're gonna have to rise up, and nobody has the answer.
You know, they say if it was easy, anyone would do it.
Trump did the hard part.
He started this.
So the, the ultimate thing is this.
Can I just give like my major emphasis?
We constantly hear this, uh, theocratic regime, this thug-like theocratic regime, this theocratic regime.
What does theocratic actually mean?
They keep saying that.
Well, it, it means that you believe that God Allah is dictating your very move.
There's only 3 countries in the world that are governed by theocracies— full
automatic autocratic theocracy.
You know the 3?
Iran is one of them.
Right below Iran you have, uh, Afghanistan, which is run by the Taliban.
Taliban, we learned our lesson there.
They're a theocratic regime without nukes.
That's the future of Iran.
The third, the Vatican.
Nobody here is worried that the Vatican is going to start jihading all of us, but that's a theocratic regime in the Vatican.
They believe that God, that Jesus Christ runs their city.
Respect, I'm good on that.
But when you, when you believe that Sharia law and Allah is governing your every move, you're not negotiating with these people.
I understand.
They're not going to negotiate away from Allah.
So you have to completely— the phrase that the council uses, defang them, defang them, defang them.
Once they have no nuclear and they have no intercontinental missiles, intercontinental ballistics, at the end of the day, they're going to be a regional threat, but we cannot turn them
into a nuclear intercontinental threat.
What are you guys saying differently?
Here's my thing.
I'm going to tell them right now, Adam, me personally, we've decimated their nuclear talk.
It's over.
But when you're saying we have to go and kill 500,000, you think, Adam, let's say Reza Pahlavi walks in, 500,000 Islamists following Ayatollah Khomeini, they're gonna go like this?
Yeah, we're gonna be cool now.
Bullshit.
That's a fairy tale.
But here's the thing, the prime example is Iraq.
We went in, we're like, Saddam Hussein's a bad guy.
9/11 had nothing to do with it.
We kill him, Adam.
Look what happened when you killed him.
I know people from Baghdad.
I know Syrians.
My cousin's wife, Nina, was like, Vinny, we have family over there.
They would much rather have had him stay because he controlled all these maniacs.
ISIS and everything happened.
So now you can't just say, well, Trump went in there and just started it.
No, there has to be a plan, Adam.
And from the looks of it, there isn't a plan when it comes to a leader.
Because the people, Adam, they don't have guns.
They're not like us.
What are you going to do?
Go in there and just give them a bunch of guns and go, guys, go take care of this yourself and kill the IRGC?
No, I do trust Trump.
Sort of the Contra method.
Yeah, yeah, the Contra method.
Tom, imagine what crap show that's going to happen.
You go in and you dump a million guns, then other people are going to take— they're going to start their own little freaking regime.
You understand what I'm saying?
A million guns, you know what they're going to do?
What?
The regime's going to kill 50 times more people and say the people did it.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
They're going to say it's the weapons you dropped, civilians were killing civilians.
You're right.
Absolutely right.
No, no, that's my point.
They don't have the internet and just murder their own people.
They would never do something like that.
Now, if you're— this is different than Iraq.
This is different than Iraq.
Iraq had a Saddam Hussein who was— he was a player.
He was somebody that was a player.
He could get up there, talk, communicate.
This is a very different regime.
This guy is killing his own people.
This is not a normal thing that you see somebody killing 30,000, 40,000, 50,000 of its own people.
It's a very different regime you're dealing with.
And if you go back to Iraq, you don't hear a lot of death upon America.
You don't remember that?
No.
There's only two countries that have ever said death upon America.
Iran and North Korea.
That's it.
North Korea started in '54 and then Iran.
That's it.
It's not like it's a similar regime as the rest.
But we're going to see.
He says, I'm fluid.
We're going to use different strategy for different events.
And he's using a different strategy for this one.
Than he did with Venezuela.
Did you think this was going to be a Venezuela type of a strategy?
No, not me.
No way.
By the way, whoever did, they're sorely— they're, they're not sorely mistaken.
You're, you're delusional.
And by the way, quick shout out to, uh, Venezuela.
That home run that was hit by, uh, who hit that home run?
Abreu.
He hit that home run, the greatest bat flip of all time.
They were down 4-5.
It was one of his players, huh?
He almost hit somebody on the side.
Yeah, so shout out to Venezuela.
Shout out to United States beating Dominican Republic.
I think tonight plays Japan, and if they win, they're going to go Italy.
Nobody thought the score was going to be 2-1 last night.
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