This Disturbing Video Is A Warning For All Of Us (Ep. 2472)

We are in a different world right now. I'm telling you, man, I'm not trying to scare you. I'm just saying, like, I live my entire life differently. I have limited my public exposure. The events I do, I'll only do with people I know, with crowds I know, with security. I don't talk about it a lot because, uh, boo, it's not about— I chose this life, it's baked into the cake, whatever.

I don't—

you don't want to hear me whining all day, but I'm very worried about you because the world has gone crazy. And this next generation of freaking lunatics who keep insulting all of us boomers and all— we were talking about that this morning. They just accept violence. They think like violence is appropriate. Look what happened after they murdered Charlie. There have been people celebrating it. You got that trial going on right now. You got people on the left think this is fantastic, folks. There's a totally different world. We'll see what happens, uh, with the, uh, with the, uh, Robinson trial that's going on right now. There are people who think this is great. Folks, be careful. I am not messing with it. I'm going to show you the video. A couple things to get through in the beginning. Uh, let's get to this first. Today's show brought to you by Patriot Mobile. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a great company, been with us for a long time. They love America, they love American values, and here's the most important part— they don't run from it at all. We all love Patriot Mobile here, use it. Patriot Mobile gives you priority service on all 3 major networks with easy switching and US-based support.

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Folks, this brings up my this problem I've talked about and addressed frequently on the show. I call it the Bourbon Street problem. The Bourbon Street problem is this: you have this attack on Bourbon Street a couple years back, uh, during one of the bowl games down in New Orleans. Guy basically turns right onto Bourbon Street, mows down a number of people, and kills them. The Bourbon Street problem is this: it is impossible to ban your way out of that by new laws. You can't ban cars and you can't ban right turns. Unfortunately, what happened in this tragic incident is this subject drives into the temple, winds up, appears from early indications, had some explosives, was thankfully taken out by a bunch of heroic security guards who had had some training weeks earlier with the FBI, their active shooter training, which we were sure to support. And I'm glad that happened. They indicated that that may have helped, which is fantastic. That this is the Bourbon Street problem. You can't ban cars just like you can't ban drones, and nor would we wanna ban firearms. That's not in anyone's interest either. That's not gonna stop anything.

So if you can't ban or legally legislate your way out of this, then what's the only way to try to stop or interdict this stuff? And the answer to the Bourbon Street problem, which I used to bring up all the time, is, We have to get not just better, but almost perfect at our ability to gather information and drown out noise. I'm going to address this with Graham later. The, the mark of an intelligent investigator, detective, a federal agent, a good lawyer or prosecutor is the ability to drown out noise. I think of it like a big chat room. Whatever, you put it, or a forum on Reddit. There are billions of posts probably on Reddit, right? But there's probably only, I don't know, less than half of 1% of them that are criminals exposing a plot there, or maybe trying to recruit terrorists. The idea is if you're a really good investigator, you drown out all the bullshit noise and you get to that 5%. What the other people do in the space who stoke bullshit theories about Charlie and elsewhere is they give you a whole bunch of noise without actually getting to the actual evidence that matters, as you're seeing and you will see in the trial for all the public to see.

Did you— does that make sense? This is super important we understand this because this is about a bigger problem that is going to require a number of fixes. You— if you're polluting the information ecosystem with things that may be facts but are not evidence at all, while eliminating actual facts that are evidence. That's the mark of a moron. This is the Bourbon Street problem. It is information warfare now. If you don't stop these guys before they get behind the wheel, if you don't, there's no way. Now, okay, well, what's the limitation to stopping them, folks? The limitation is we live in a republic. We live in a republic, which you know. We can't go out and blanket surveil without predication 330 million Americans. And I would hope to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, not using his name in vain ever, that you feel the same way. I don't care what your religion or faith is. There is no reason in a republic to be ethically surveilling people without predication. None. We should not be lurking in every chat room, spying on everything. Everybody— nobody wants that. So how do you balance that liberty and security?

Folks, we need that. We need— we're going to need help. There's going to have to be some legislative assistance here. You saw it again with this case, New York Post, another attack yesterday, Old Dominion University. Tragic. This hero ROTC instructor killed by a convicted ISIS terrorist ID'd as a chair of military science department who served in the Middle East. Hero. Absolute hero. Another hero takes this guy down, uh, I believe it was a ROTC student, and, and winds up, uh, killing him with a knife. Good, good. But folks, in a republic, we have got to be careful who we let in here because listen to me, I was on Ingraham last night and I brought this up. And media people, I want you to listen too. Everyone can throw rocks. Fair enough. That's— that's actually your job in the media. And it's good to kind of give opinions and throw rocks and criticize because it makes people better. We have to do a couple of things right away because it is impossible to chase probably 15 million people who are letting the country under Biden and maybe another 5 million we don't even know about.

It is impossible with every state, local, tribal, territorial, and federal agency on planet Earth to chase down all these people afterwards because some of them are just hiding. They're not advertising in chat rooms. You've got to do a couple of things right now. There has got to be a legislative fix to these sentencing guidelines that if you were convicted with regards to the Old Dominion shooting of material support to terrorism, or frankly any terrorism charge federally, WMD, attack on, uh, U.S. citizens overseas, conspiracy, and it's related to a terrorism enhancement. Life in prison no matter what. I said this yesterday during the show— or was it Wednesday?— to forget the rehabilitation model. There is no rehabilitating these people. This guy was chased down by the older FBI. I wasn't there, I had nothing to do with it, uh, that case, so I'm not trying to take credit for their work. They chased him down, put him in jail, and what happens? A judge cuts his sentence practically in half, lets him out, he does it again. There's no rehabilitation model. And he has constitutional rights like anyone else. It's a republic. It's a republic. The way to stop it is to never let these people in in the first place.

And if they are in here and convicted of any terrorism-related or terrorism-even-adjacent charge, Life in prison, that sounds harsh. Too bad. You know what's harsh? People dying. That's what's harsh. There's only so much money. I mean, like I said, they had this training exercise, thankfully they had done that helped, but that, that didn't stop anything. That's just training to stop what's already happening. We put a ton of money into TSC, the Threat Screening Center, to screen some of these people out. But in order to do that, they have to come into contact with law enforcement who calls the TSC.. And by that point, sometimes it's too late too. You are never ever going to fix this once they're here. You've got to stop them from coming in, and if they are convicted, they never get out of jail ever. Second, in addition to sentencing enhancements, you have got to make substantial changes to the naturalization and denaturalization process. This attacker in this one case is terrorist. Was naturalized, came through the immigration process. Folks, the denaturalization process is a nightmare.

It's an—

it's not easy. It's subject to court orders. This should be a ground ball. If you— folks, is anything— I bet you don't— if you're convicted of one of these terror charges, if there's not within a 10 or 5-year guideline depending on the circumstances, you're not automatically denaturalized. Is that the craziest effing thing you've ever heard in your life. What country on earth would— Justin, am I, am I nuts? If you go to Sierra Leone and are convicted of trying to attack and overthrow the government, forget about throwing you out of the country, I'll throw you in a river. You should be automatically denaturalized, life in prison, or, or absolute immediate deportation. That's it. Yeah, right. He's talking about how, like, you think they accept— and not that they're like a model of efficiency, the CCP, but you think like they do any of this stuff? This is freaking bananas. I was trying to explain too, this is— all right, another takeaway. So 3 points, and I'm going to get to the video, I promise. But this is important too. I don't want to miss the news that happened last night. I'm gone with you for the weekend.

I feel like, uh, separation anxiety from the Bongino Army. Folks, we've got our eyes on a lot of people, but there are a lot of people here we just don't know about who don't surface in online forums and advertise. They just surface when they make a right turn on Bourbon Street. The third point I want to make is we have got to address legal immigration reform. President Trump has been all over this like freaking white on rice. Him and Stephen Miller have brought this up with the terror-laden countries ban. They call it the Muslim bullshit. It's not a Muslim ban, you assholes. You know that's just bullshit. No Muslims banned from coming into the country because they're Muslim. You know that's fake. There are countries that have vetting problems. I want to explain this to you. And I saw this knee-deep, maybe neck-deep. When you start taking in people from third world countries that do not have any kind of government infrastructure at all, they don't have papers or records. Some of these people, I shit you not, don't even know their own birthday. You think there's a Department of Motor Vehicles over there? Uh, this guy, uh, Joey Bag of Donuts from Sierra Leone has 6 points on his license.

Are you freaking crazy? There are no records of anything. So when you hear from the Biden team, not the Trump team, when you hear from the Biden team and the Obama team, oh, these people were vetted, OAW, Allies Welcome, and other— vetted how? What did you do to vet them? You asked them, hey, were you ever arrested in Sierra Leone? Uh, no. Okay, thanks. That's not vetting, bro. Why do you think Donald Trump has tried to stop or slow down immigration from countries that don't have established infrastructure and have problems with terrorism? Because you don't know who you're letting in. How freaking hard is this? I told you yesterday, Donald Trump's superpower is the ability to say things that make sense and get the left to rebel against him. Listen to me. There is no good substantive vetting process from some third-world terror-laden countries that is going to be satisfactory where we should be admitting people here en masse. None. Anyone telling you otherwise is lying. I saw it. Don't bullshit me. And again, here's a fair question. Hold on, I just like to— I always like to look at your feedback. Here's a fair question.

I, I'd start my own questions, point counterpoint, like, all right, Dan, what did you guys do? Awesome. I'm asking myself. We put a whole shit ton of money into the threat screening center, into the drone program. We also started a program, and I, I don't want to— I, this— I'm not sure how much detail I can get into here, so I'm going to be a little careful. We started a program to bump the border out overseas. I think it's actually out on Cash may have put something out about it. We have a screening program overseas that doesn't rely on anybody's records. We put another ton of money into IOD, our International Ops Division, into pushing the border out so that we have a record on a lot of these people, whether they know it or not, before they even come in. Is it the solution? There is no solution. Is it a Band-Aid on a huge problem? Yes. They cannot come here, folks. Listen to me. Think about this as two separate rooms, okay? I wanted to use this analogy last night on Laura's show. She was nice enough to have me on, and I just— I couldn't.

We ran out of time. When you are a— think about this— a non-US person, as they call it, a non-US person not on US soil, conus o conus, not on US soil. You have no constitutional rights whatsoever. You're in one room. So think about this as two rooms. Now, in that room, there are a bunch of things that can be done. Pretend there are like microphones in the room, cameras, thermal detectors. I'm just throwing stuff out there, basically measuring and listening devices we can do. Because those people don't have our constitutional rights. They're not US citizens. They're not on US soil. This is not a mystery how we, you know, how we do this stuff. Once you go into the attached— so think about a hotel room, right? Once you open the door and let them into the US room, all that shit goes away. There's still abilities, of course, to, you know, to gather information on people through legal process., but it is a monster pain in the ass, and it takes time. Sometimes time you don't have. Do you see why I'm trying to hammer home this point? That once you open that door to hotel room number 2, you don't have time anymore.

It's not on your side. They just get to extend it through judicial process, and it screws the whole thing up. You cannot let them in. Thank God Thank you, God, Jesus Christ. I mean it, that we don't have Kamala Harris in charge right now. The Bourbon Street problem is real. We are in an information warfare fight where our Constitution thankfully limits what the government can do, but those limitations create problems too. And the way to stop those problems is to stop the problem from ever coming here at the border. I really hope that does a decent job of explaining the catch-me-if-you-can problem. Once they're in, we got to catch them and catch them again and catch them again. They will never, ever stop. These people who want to kill you will use anything. The Iraq War, the Iran War, the Hamas October 7th terror attack. They'll use anything. Anything is an excuse to turn right on Bourbon Street. You have to stop them. All right, I'm going to take a quick break and then I'm going to get to this, uh, video I discussed. Because folks, I want you to just please stop what you're doing if you could.

And if you're watching on Apple or listening on Apple or Spotify, please go back and watch this segment on, on Rumble. And not for clicks. I don't give a damn about the clicks. Find it on the internet for all I care. I just need you to watch this because this was a wake-up call for me too. That sounds crazy. You think given all the threats we deal with every day, even for me, I was like, this is serious stuff. Hey, I've been asked many times, but perfect. This was like, what a setup for this. You think we planned this? We did not. Burn up. You ever burn up? I get asked a lot how I can help protecting my protect my family without taking a life. People ask me about all kinds of devices and stuff. So let me tell you about a product I really like. Like I said, I pick my sponsors carefully. Byrna, B-Y-R-N-A. I have a Byrna they sent me. I have a couple of them. And let me tell you, I trust it. I really like this. I have a couple of them. Byrna's less-than-lethal launcher fires powerful kinetic and chemical rounds that can incapacitate an attacker for up to 30 minutes.

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Maybe more, but you know, you know these guys, we talk about them all the time. These are just, you know, uh, uh, Hunter and Gunther Eagleman, good dudes. Brandon Dilley's got— he's got a pretty big following, folks. You're a target too now. You are a public figure. No, I'm not. Yes, you are. People know you, and there are crazies out there who would do bad things to you. In a minute, I'm going to play this video in two parts, okay? This is a, uh, a podcast commentator, and what he's doing is he's playing a video of this guy streaming the fact that he was at a debate with Constantine Kisson, who was, uh, like a conservative commentator. And the guy's talking on the stream about how he was just feet away from him, and if he had a utility knife that he would like kill him. And he's like going into detail. It's the craziest thing. I saw this and I was like, this is the nuttiest thing I've ever seen. Here's part 1.

Check this out from the Charlie Kirk killing.

This guy was sitting mere feet away from Konstantin Kisin during his debate with Destiny. When you hear what he has to say, it is scary to think how this could have gone.

I was like fucking locked onto his eyes and he kept like glancing down at me and then like breaking eye contact. Because I fucking hate the guy. I was just like, I wanted to kill him.

I stumbled upon this stream when I was just trying to research and understand the opposing view, and I was shocked by some of the things this guy was saying. Keep in mind, this guy was sitting in Constantine's eyeline.

I think he got distracted by that and didn't pay attention to a single thing.

What do you think? Yes, it is just talk, but there is something more disturbing beneath the surface here. He's openly talking about wanting to assassinate Constantine. This could have gone very differently. He even has a box cutter or X-Acto knife.

Do you know what I should have done? Stanley blades, just fucking sprinted up onto the stage, slash Constantine in the fucking jugular.

Guys, this is kind of the hard reality, hard truth show. I've been a police officer, been an agent a couple times, done protection at the highest levels. Reaction is always going to be slower than action, okay? That's tautological. It's not some stroke of Einsteinian genius, because the person acting knows what they're going to do and you don't.

You—

there's a variable there. I'm gonna jump on the stage and kill this guy with an X-Acto knife or a razor. By the time you even process what's going on, sometimes it's too late. We used to say this all the time with the President's Detail, that you, you train and train and train just to— I got a part 2 of this in a second. Folks in the chat, tell me that's not the craziest freaking sickest thing The guy's talking about this on a freaking stream. By the time you see what's going on, you train and train and train just to reduce that fog of war. I was not in the military. I hate military analogies, but that's the only analogy, forgive me, I can think of. Advanced military special operators, everyone from Rangers up to Delta, SEALs, Force Recon, pararescue will tell you, even the best of the best, the fog of war where your brain has to process what's going on first and think about what to do is always going to be slower than the guy who's acting and already thought about what to do because he did it. Even the crème de la crème, the top ranger, the best Delta operator out there, even they, their time to react may be like this.

Regular Joe civilian like us, probably like that. But there's still this. Well, the other guy's already acted. A lot of you in this chat right now, and some of you know some of our own, like, close people— I mean, Bongino Army folks who've developed quite a following— you may be thinking right now like, oh, that's not me, I've got a couple thousand followers on Twitter. Uh, no, that could be you too. I'm just giving you the hard truth. What do we do? I don't have a good answer. The only reason I'm even showing you this without a good answer is I'd rather give you a bad answer than no answer. And the bad answer is this: have your freaking head on a swivel around these lunatics. You got people supposedly on our side, which is bullshit. There's no infighting. Oh, this is outfighting, stoking up crazy conspiracy theories about an army of people and foreigners who killed Charlie and all this other shit. You got people out there like, I can't believe you won't tell everyone you hate the Jews. Well, why would I say that? I don't. Well, if you don't, you're not. And then you stoke up a bunch of crazy bots telling you how much they want to kill you.

Just look at my Twitter feed to see what I'm talking about. You protect pedophiles. What? You sick fucks. What are you talking about? You freaking lunatics. I already. Did you guys see when I was in there, we had that guy who showed up at the— what was it, the, uh, the TV station— had a note in his car like he wanted to off me and Pam and Cash. That was one of like 20 of these things. I got it. Boo-hoo, whatever. I'm a public figure, it's part of the job. A lot of you, it isn't. A lot of you do Twitter Lives and things like that, and you've got really good healthy followings. Listen, 5,000 followers on Twitter is a lot, man. Shit, took me like 3 years to get 10,000 followers on Twitter when I started. I don't even know when I started. I've been there forever. That's a lot of people, folks. 5,000 people is like, you know, a bad Miami Heat home game. Well, I take that back. Bam, 83 points. I love the Heat. No, but I'm dead serious. Like, Justin, Josh, this even goes for you. Josh, when you did your job interview, did I not tell this to you?

I'm like, Josh, you're part of the show, man. I, I, I was like, if you're not comfortable with that— because we had one guy in here, nice guy, but he wasn't comfortable, and it's cool, that's cool, very nice guy, but he's like, I gotta go. I told him, brother, save me the process of going through this background, all this other stuff, because you are part of the show. Folks, just please be careful. Have eyes on the back of your head. Do little things. When you sit in a restaurant, just take the seat closest to the door. You know, when you're out in public and you're in church or places of worship, as we see with this temple attack that just happened, another one— why do assholes, terrorists, scumbags, and criminals attack churches all the time? Well, because they hate their religion. Yes, that's fairly obvious, but it's not just that. One of the reasons that as well is most people in church, their attention is where? Justin and I go to the same church. Ahead on the altar. Nobody's looking at the back door. The priest is right there. It's different when you come in a movie theater.

When you come in a movie theater, everybody sees you coming in and up the stairs. It's the exact opposite in a church. So what do you do? Once in a while glance back. And I will say most importantly, if you can, and are willing to train first, because being untrained is not going to help you much. I'm telling you as a friend, carry if you can. Carry if you can. I say it to my own team. I do. But you got security, don't care. Carry if you can. Because let me tell you something, if it's the bad guy— I don't want to kill or hurt anyone. I abhor violence. I don't give a shit what any any lunatic in the liberal media tells you. I absolutely abhor and roundly condemn any act of political violence. Give zero fucks who you are. But I am dead serious. It's not a tough guy. I'm a broken 51-year-old, folks. I can barely lift my arms and shoulders. If you think I'm trying to tell you I'm tough, you got the wrong show. I'm telling you the opposite. Maybe 20 years ago I've stood a chance. A firearm is the great equalizer.

If it's me or you, it's you. Here's part 2 of this. This is how sick these people are, folks. This is why I tell you to roundly condemn, block, report anyone inciting violence, you know, committing crimes. You see, they are not in our movement. At all. Get them out. No movement can survive that. Here's part 2 where he plays this guy basically talking about, hey, if we're gonna do it and we're gonna kill these people, then he says, I learned something from Charlie's murder. I learned that, you know, we can't have a lot of gore because it turns people off. What the f— They've actually thought about the optics of murder.

Listen yourself. But he wants to kill him. You can see the chat. They're all thinking the same thing. It seems no one seems to be bothered by this because it has become so commonplace. He knows he can do this. YouTube's not going to do anything.

Done. So in prison forever on the one hand, prison forever on the one hand. And then I— and then I should have gone— then I should have gone woke jihad.

Woke jihad.

Oh no, I should have gone for the white race or something, I don't know.

You could say, oh okay, well he just worded that poorly, it's just an expression, but he takes this much farther. Then he gets into, based on what happened to Charlie Kirk, this is what I have learned when it comes to how to kill conservatives.

No, I feel like my genuine psychopath thought that I've learned from the Charlie Kirk killing is if you are going to assassinate a political target, then try to reduce the gore as much as possible so people can't sympathize with the bastard who's getting it. So you, you'd have to go up with like a cape and like cover them in a cape and do it cleanly under there, you know, like a, like a, an abattoir.

So he's literally openly talking about assassinating political targets here.

The podcaster, not the crazy kid, to be clear, is Warren Smith. Hat tip on that, folks. These people are effing crazy. By the way, huge hat tip. I see Chicago Ray. He's Chicago One. Ray is in the chat. Appreciate you, Dan, brother. I appreciate you too. I appreciate all the Bongino Army folks that didn't jump down my throat 5 minutes after entering FBI because, uh, you know, every single thing that— I love you guys. You guys are the— I will never forget that, the fact that you let us work. Guys are great. Thank you, Chicago Ray. And you should go follow him on X. He's a great guy. And all the McGroins, Anita, that whole crew. Speak, all of them, just great people. I thank you guys. There he is. Same. He has the same picture on X too. Appreciate you, brother. But I'm telling you all, you're public figures now, guys. What's so— I hate to say you're famous, whatever, notoriety sounds stupid. Oh, famous. You are. You are. People know you guys. This is not the 1980s or '70s anymore where if you were lucky, you got an op-ed in like the local newspaper and then someone, hey, I saw you're up.

People become famous overnight. That's the whole influencer thing. I'm like, I hate that stupid word. But people now— and I'm not saying this about our guys— there are like, you look at like, like the Alex Earls of the world. Now I'm not knocking her at all. I'm a capitalist. Hey, I really am. I'm not— this is not like some backhanded shot. There are people now who are like famous for being famous. Folks, train with a firearm. Carry it. Train as often as you can. Keep your freaking head on a swivel. Watch the door. Don't live your lives in a panic. Turn around once in a while when you're in church. When you get in your car, lock the door right away. I get in my car, first thing I do, lock the door. Because the first thing a shithead's gonna do if he's trying to get you when you get into your car which is the deadly diamond— they know where you arrive and they know where you depart— is going to grab the door and try to pull the door open. If it's locked and it gives you a second to back out, then you just bought yourself a second.

You don't have the door locked, you're in a fight for that door. If he's got a gun, you're screwed. God made man, Sam Colt made man equal. I see, I see, manimal. Oh, thank you for the tip, $20. That's nice of you. Again, you don't have to do that. What's bothering me, and the reason I keep bringing this up, is not just the insanity of that clip we just saw. And Constantine, I hope you got a good security team. He's a good man. I hope you do. I know he does. Well, and I hate to even highlight it, but if we don't, I don't want anyone to fall prey to this stuff too. What's bothering me most is when you take polls specifically of left-leaning young kids, young adults I should say, there's a good swath of them in the double digits that think political violence is acceptable, and it's growing. Scary shit, man. Folks, please please, please stay safe out there and do not assume you will not be a target. Can I— I just want to wrap this up here. This is important. I'm not going to name names for fairly obvious reasons, but if you're watching, and some of you are, you know who you are.

During the last year doing the job, a lot of people have my cell phone number. Some people would reach out and DM. And we got tons of stuff about swatting, and we did a lot. Did you notice a lot of that, a lot of that came to, uh, came to an end? Well, there's a reason. There were a number of things we couldn't advertise publicly, but a lot of it was coming from overseas, it turns out, and it was related to a bunch of cell phone farms. And it took a lot of investigative work. It wasn't easy. It wasn't just as simple as, oh, we got the phone number. If you find out how One of these days, when all of this stuff is out publicly, I want to do a whole show on how the whole swatting thing happened, because I promise you, you're going to be stunned the level of sophistication that went into it. Some of it was just stupid kids. Majority of it was not. It was actually extremely sophisticated. So people would reach out and say things like, well, we got the number, and I couldn't say anything because the way those people got the number It's not what you think.

It was very sophisticated. And once we took down the network, a lot of it— not all of it— slowed down. Do you notice it hasn't been such— so much of a thing? That's another one of those things people swore wasn't happening that happened. We just couldn't advertise it because it's still connected to things that are still ongoing now. But a lot of people would reach out to me on DM, and some people through my cell phone number And they would say, I just got this crazy threat, folks. Some of these guys, I swear to you, were people with, you know, 50,000 to 100,000 followers. Good amount, but not like crazy. And some of the stuff that we had to go out and action, we didn't advertise because we didn't want to incentivize even more of these people. The bad guys, that is. You know who you are. Talking about the people we had to go out and action some of that stuff. It is a really, really bad environment right now for conservatives, MAGA people. Just be careful, okay, folks? Propaganda is powerful, man. We've got a lot of people out there again claiming they're part of our team.

You're not part of our team. It's not our team. It's okay, you're allowed to have an opinion. I'm not even mad at you for— have your own opinion, whatever. Some I am, but do your own thing. Do your own thing. I'm just saying, like, this team has a goal: liberty, freedom, winning elections, establishing a safer, more prosperous country for our kids. If you're not part of that goal, you're not part of our team. It's okay. You're allowed to be part of the other team. Okay, that's okay. But propaganda is a powerful, intoxicating weapon that the left has used over and over and over again, and they get away with it because the fourth estate media, as you know, refuses to call the left out when they bullshit you ever. This is the Hard Truth Show, okay? We're going to give you the hard truth. We're going to tell you what's happening, what's not happening, why it's not happening. I just went over in the beginning of the show limitations we have, how we fix it, gave you some solutions. But one of the things that pisses me off is when people say things that are so transparently stupid and the left-wing media for a second can't take off their freaking blinders and go, okay, that's dumb.

If you are a California resident right now watching the show, we got a lot of God bless you, good for you, I'm glad you're here. However, if you are a liberal in California, how do you look around at the state of your— and your hair gel governor— how do you look at the state of your state and go, this is freaking awesome? Every single person who has the ability to leave California, who has any kind of even moderate, even almost moderate left-leaning, is thinking of an exit plan out of there right now. The only thing that's stopping them is they probably can't find a freaking U-Haul as people rent the U-Haul to go to Texas and Florida. If you are one of those left-leaning people, I am begging you as a friend, please don't move here to my state. I can't say it enough. I am appointing Justin the border czar of Florida. Governor DeSantis, you're welcome on the show. Can we have Justin just at the border? We can have him up in the Panhandle. Josh can volunteer up north, uh, at the north-south border. But Please, a volunteer's tribute. Thank you. Justin's volunteering his time.

Governor DeSantis, we need border control. I don't want these liberals here. Stay away. Stay away. You remember? You ever see that scene in Bridesmaids where she's on the kitchen sink? It's coming out like lava. She's like, look away, look away. Just look away. Look to another state. Move to Chicago. Move to Massachusetts. Don't come here, right, Florida residents? Don't come here. Who is this? Where would we find out the truth without you, Dan? Thank you, I appreciate it. It's the best compliment in the chat. Sorry I missed it. Chat moves really fast on this show. We got a lot of people. I heard New York is pretty empty right now. Yes, Justin, as borders are. Justin, as the borders are Florida. We've just declared it. There's been a decree. Governor DeSantis, can you tweet that out? Make it official. Justin says he's heard from his other border czar friends up in the Northeast that New York is open. Go up there, go up there, go move to New York. It's okay. There's a lot of vacancy sign on the Bates Motel. Vacancy. Justin doesn't even get that. He's too young. Do you know what that means?

The Bates Motel? Jasmine, do you know what it means? Of course Jasmine does. Jasmine's younger than me, but, you know, it gets it. Justin's like. 16, so he's figuring it out. Here's what I mean. Here's Gavin Newsom giving an interview again, and I want to show you what bullshit propaganda looks like, okay? This is his attempt. It's only like 30 seconds, but an attack on President Trump. Now I want to tell you what he's going to tell you first, because I want you to pay attention, because we're going to do hard, true stuff even when it doesn't reflect great on the Republican Party. Gavin Newsom talks about 3 big things in this 30 seconds. But he's talking about like Democrats versus Republicans, Biden versus Trump, about growth, GDP, economic growth, gas price, gas prices. California governor Hair Gel talking about freaking gas prices as if this is a good thing. This is how crazy this shit is. And then he mentions inflation as if like the Democrats and the Biden 9% peak inflation, they have a victory lap to take. He actually did this. But when you listen to Hair Gel, because the left is really good at propaganda, I'm going to tell you something.

If you're a stupid person, you're like, wow, this guy's right, man. Trump really has done horrible on inflation and gas prices. You're almost convinced. Check this bullshit out. In an economy that was honestly one of the most robust, fastest growing economies in the world. And here we are. I mean, we're now— it's in reverse with the new jobs numbers. I mean, you saw the gasoline prices going through the roof in red states. I thought I saw today 40— up 47 cents in West Virginia, 47 cents, same number in Indiana. And that's just a few days into this war. Yeah. Wait and see inflation pressures. We're now having the echoes. I mean, cue up the song around stagflation. We're going to all start having that conversation. Okay. This is the craziest shit you've ever seen. He talks about inflation, gas prices. He mentioned the West Virginia, Indiana thing, right? I was watching it. Either, right? He talks about GDP and jobs numbers. If you're a moron and you easily— this is what I'm talking about. I'm going to bring this up with Graham Allen in about, uh, I don't know, 15, 20 minutes or so to be our guest today.

Listen to me, please, my beloved audience. I love you guys and ladies to death. And the day I go 6 feet deep, you've given me everything. My life is a gift from you. From the Almighty. The mark of a moron is a person or a subject overwhelmed by facts and underwhelmed by evidence. It is the mark of a moron. They cannot— in a forum full of people, they cannot find the target because they're overwhelmed by non-targets. Everything bothers him. They're there to investigate a bank robbery and there's a bee buzzing in the background. They're like, there's a bee, there's a bee. Yeah, there's a fact, there's a freaking bee there, but it has nothing to do with the fucking bank robbery. Focus. That's the mark of a moron. I'm not kidding. The mark of a stupid person is getting overwhelmed by evidence. That's what Gavin Newsom just did to you. He overwhelmed you with 30 seconds of what he perceives to be facts and data, but leaves out every single thing that is an actual critical fact relevant to the point. Here's what I mean. And just to prove my point that Gavin Newsom's full of shit, I used left-leaning websites intentionally so I can't be accused by Newsom's team of any right-leaning bias.

Okay, so he brings up the employment numbers and GDP. Oh my gosh, Trump sucks. Biden's great. So I went to factcheck.org. Now you're probably laughing. Factcheck.org is to the left of Lenin. They make the New York Times look like Breitbart. However, even factcheck.org has an issue with a lot of this bullshit about the Biden numbers versus Trump. Here we go. When Biden compared his jobs record with Trump, he exaggerated the figures. This is a left-leaning website. They note that Biden said this: we created 2.2 additional— 2.2 million additional jobs, Biden said. And how many jobs Trump created his first year? 185,000 total. That's it. Factcheck.org notes, however, the most recent data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, certainly not biased to the right, shows that total employment increased by a little bit more than 1.2 million during Biden's last full year in office in the term. He left office on January 20th, 2025. Oh, so Biden's lying about it? There's like a second part. You mean Biden was lying about that? This is factcheck.org, it's not bongino.com. Meanwhile, they know in the first full year of Trump's second term— first full year, we're just one year in for the liberal tools who don't know that, he's got three more to go— employment increased by 359,000.

From Jan. 2025 to Jan. 2026. For his speech, they note— here, here, they got to give Biden an out— Biden may have relied on outdated data or data covering a different period. We reached out to his office about his claims, but we didn't receive a response. He may have a stutter. He may— that's what he'll do, he'll blame it. Oh no, and Gavin Newsom will blame it on like, I, I couldn't read when I was growing up. Biden, he always blames everything on the stutter. I had to— did He blames it when he needs it for this crutch to rely on. So Biden was lying to you. So Trump's job record, even his first year, is pretty amazing. And Biden's exaggerating his numbers. Did Newsom tell you that? No, because Newsom is counting on you to be distracted by the bumblebee while investigating the bank robbery. Pay attention to the fact there's a bee there and ignore the evidence that there's a fingerprint on the counter of the bank you need to pull, because if you don't pull it, you're not gonna solve the bank robbery.

Robbery.

That's the mark of a moron. Newsom mentions GDP too. Let's go back and check it out with factcheck.org. Lefties, they note Biden also claimed that the economy grew with record growth during his presidency. This next line is great. We have no basis for that. We found no basis for that statement. They note that GDP grew by 34.9% in the third quarter of 2020. Like, my gosh, that's insanely high. And 18.9% in all of the 1942, which are quarterly and annual growth data according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates. The highest quarterly GDP growth under Biden was 7% in the second and fourth quarters of 2021. Remember, This is when the economy was rebounding from COVID And the highest annual GDP growth during his administration was 6.2% that same year. So whereas your buddy Dan will tell you the truth, yeah, there were some amazing GDP numbers in the Biden presidency. It's not a record. It's not even close to a record. And second, a lot of that, the average during his 4 years was 3.6%, was due to, a lot of that was due to the COVID recovery. Where you could have put a houseplant in charge.

Wait, leave this up. They note that Biden's average 4-year GDP of 3.6% growth was still lower than the almost 4.5% average during Clinton's second term. All right, fair enough. And the average of 5.2% during Lyndon Johnson. They talk about FDR as well. Like I said, I'm giving you the truth, Democrats, but that's what happened. Taking out the bounce-back year after GDP plunged because of the pandemic and the bounce-back, Biden's presidency was 2.7%, which is close to the yearly average of 2.8% of the last 50 years. So he's actually below when you take out the COVID bounce back. Close is a funny way to say below. Yeah, below. Close is a funny way to say it's below. So Newsom, you notice how Newsom doesn't tell you any of that? He focuses on the B at the bank robbery scene. It gets even better. So I could have went to Grok, which I think is one of the better AIs out there. However, I didn't want to be accused because Elon's a free speech guy. Of like bias in this segment. So he mentions also other things quickly, like gas prices and inflation. So I went to Gemini, Google's.

So he mentions gas prices and he's like, man, gas prices, you believe West Virginia and Indiana? This is hair gel in California. So I just put in— this is the actual screenshot from my phone, correct guys? Screenshot, sent it over. Gas prices, West Virginia and Indiana versus California. California has significantly higher gas prices with averages exceeding $5 per gallon. Compared to Indiana and West Virginia, which are in the $330 to $350 range, even after recent nationwide price surge. There's a— there's Gemini. Gemini. What about inflation? Gavin Newsom said, hey man, we should take a victory lap. Trump's terrible on inflation versus Biden. We're doing awesome on gas prices versus West Virginia. You know, there are things called facts, you Here, screenshot from my phone. Inflation under Biden versus under Trump. Glad I didn't spell anything wrong. Inflation. Sometimes I get typos. I fat finger everything. Here we go. Pretty simple stuff. Google Gemini, not a right-leaning AI generator. Inflation during the Biden administration was significantly higher than during the first term of the Trump administration. Driven by post-pandemic supply chain, whatever. Give us a— inflation peaked at 9.1% in June 2022 under Biden, a 40-year high, before cooling to 2.5% in August of 2024.

That's Gemini, folks. The inflation numbers just came out. So then now Google Gemini notes, because there's— I believe there's a bias in a lot of these left-leaning AI generators, these LLMs. That it cooled to 2.5 after Biden peaked out at 9% inflation, which is an insane number. Remember, prices double every 10 years at 7%. He peaked out at 9. Here's CNBC, quick 20 seconds on the recent inflation numbers that just popped a couple days ago. And you'll notice that Donald Trump has managed to keep a lid on the Biden inflation despite Biden leaving him with a freaking mess. Check this out. Here we go with the year-over-year numbers and zero progress, but not losing any ground. It remains at 2.4 on year-over-year headline. 2.4 really is that to find a lower number, you're going back to April of last year at 2.3. To find a higher number, you're at December of last year at 2.7. Just to give you some context there. Now, in my opinion, the most important number, year-over-year core, remains at 2.5%. Folks, I promise you, listen to me, I will never bullshit you. I put that factcheck.org up there even though it cited prior Democrat presidents having some successful GDP growth.

I'm not telling you it was because of their Democrat policies, but I'm not going to bullshit you and pretend it didn't exist. Second-term Bill Clinton, the economy grew at a pretty healthy clip. That's just a fact. I'm not going to bullshit you because he was a Democrat, because then my credibility is at stake. Newsom doesn't give a shit about any of that. Any of that stuff. Tell people the freaking truth, man. That guy is a bullshit artist. And that's why you get to put this tweet up. That's why this is probably the most unshocking poll you've ever seen. You see, this thing went nuclear yesterday on X. They did this poll of people with, you know, tragically with mental health problems. That's not funny at all. I've had to deal with some of it in my own family. However, this is fascinating. @RyanBurge: Conservatives who attend church weekly are the least likely to have ever been diagnosed with a mental health condition. Liberals who have low attendance are the most likely to have a diagnosis. I don't wish mental health problems on anyone. However, this is the least surprising poll you've ever seen. There's the data yourself.

And they say go touch grass. I mean it literally. Go touch grass. Do some grounding. Spend time with your kids. Go to church. Be part of a community. Get off the iPhone once in a while. Get off the Android. Get off the computer, the smartphone. There is a real world out there waiting. And the conservatives like you who go to church and remain part of the community, involve volunteer their time and do this. It's not a secret that you have really, really low levels of mental health problems, while liberals who are on the computer all day— I hate the Jews, I hate the Jews, did it, the Jews did it— all day, the liberal crazies out there, Egyptian planes, lasers, all this other— do you not find it odd that these people have mental health issues? It's not infighting, it's outfighting. They're not in our club. It's ours. I want to show you what real people also look like in the real world. People you all in the chat run into all the time. Here's just a quick one, you know, street— I love man-on-the-street interviews, they're great. This happens to be a woman on the street.

For those listening on Apple and Spotify, she happens to be Black. Does that matter to conservatives? I don't give two or three shits what color her skin is. However, for liberals constantly gaslighting you like Gavin Newsom, that Trump's a racist, this guy's got to be the worst freaking racist ever as he continues to pile up support in the Black and Hispanic community. Here's what the real world looks like. When you get out of Gavin Newsom's bubble of stupid. Check this out. Donald Trump, we appreciate you and we're here for you.

He came in on day one, he's standing on business.

I love it, and he's doing an amazing job. That's what the real world looks like, folks. You know what, let's put that DoorDash— you want to see another one? Jasmine, this one's for you. Jasmine loves timeline cleanse videos. Jasmine's got like— Jasmine's the most pure person on planet Earth. She's always listening to like gospel music and loves Jesus. Keeps me straight. I'm always trying to be better. She loves Timeline Cleanse videos. Did you see this story? Just quick, but this lady sees on her Ring doorbell— keep— this is Colin Rugg, yeah, his tweet first. This lady sees on her Ring doorbell this DoorDash delivery guy delivering some Starbucks to her house, and he's clearly elderly and moving quite slowly. I mean, really slowly. I'll show you the video in a second. And she feels bad for him, so they go and they wind up doing, uh, one of these like, uh, give, send, go type things, right? They wind up raising almost $300,000 for this guy. Why do I bring this up? Yeah, like a timeline cleanse on a Friday, it's pretty awesome. However, I also want to show you that, folks, this is the beautiful, gorgeous country— gorgeous country we live in, full of amazing, incredible people.

Look at this elderly gentleman. Still busting his ass working for a living. Check this out. If you did check this, if you're listening on audio only, you got to watch this. That's it. Just delivering his DoorDash, still working. And real Americans donating $1, $0.50, $5, $10, right? $300,000 for this kid. They don't even know him. And you're going to tell me how terrible and broken, MAGA civil war, country's falling apart. Space aliens, all those other— nah, nah, man, I ain't buying that shit. I love this place, and when you talk about it, you're damn right you're going to talk about it with a smile on your face. We got our heroes overseas right now putting their asses on the line. Just had some servicemen who died tragically in a tanker incident. We still are waiting for the details on that. This country is full of heroes and patriots, and when you talk about it put a damn smile on your face because these are the people. These are the people this country is made of. These are the ingredients in the best-tasting pie in the world, America. I want to show you another hero. You know, uh, Johnny Joey Jones of Fox, EOD, explosives ordnance disposal technician in the military, tragically lost his lower legs in an incident in the combat zone.

Johnny Joey is an amazing guy and a good friend, a good man. I saw him yesterday post this on Twitter about Steak and Lobster Gate, the ridiculous, absurd— so I don't want to keep hammering because the story's so freaking stupid that the Secretary of War had purchased steak and lobster for the troops. Folks, they should be eating lobster for breakfast with their scrambled eggs because we love you guys and ladies. Thank you for everything. You heroes, heroes, heroes. I cannot say enough about you. That experience I had in the last year, one of the biggest takeaways I had is, my gosh, our military is full of unbelievable patriots. The American flags in the chat always love you guys. Thank you for being here, veterans, service members, families of service members. Here's Johnny "Joey" Jones, who— if I want to hear about the sacrifices people made in the military, a guy who lost a couple of his, uh, legs in combat, I think he's earned the credibility to have a couple of, uh, comments about steak and lobster for our heroes, right? It's about a minute or so, but I want you to listen to all of this.

It's worth your time.

Check this out. In 2010, in Afghanistan, I was working with two other Marine EOD techs, Brian Smith and Chindo Mesa. We had been out all day long working some IEDs. It was a difficult day. We had a few really close calls that day. When we got back, we sat down and I've got this picture of us just sitting on a ledge at Patrol Base Karma and there's a stack of MREs behind us. And I remember Mesa looking at me and saying, man, I just hope I don't get that chicken tetrazzini or something like that. Like we've been out all day. It's a tough day. It was like, man, I just hope I get a decent MRE. And then somebody comes down the around the corner like, hey guys, it's steak and lobster night. It's surf and turf. A log train had come in, which was insane because the route was littered with IEDs. And now I've got another picture of the three of us eating steak in the room that we lived in later that night. What's funny is the look on our faces from the one picture to the other is about the same because we're in war.

But after that day, for weeks, we talked about steak and lobster night. It's the only one I've ever gotten overseas. It was in the middle of a really tough summer. Brian got blown up a few weeks later. He's not with us anymore. He died of stomach cancer last year. Then I got blown up a couple of months later. And you see these tweets, you see these tweets about, you know, Pete Hegseth has spent $15 million on steak and lobster. Are you serious? That is the only thing about home? That's the only thing that makes you feel special for the entire time you're there watching and your buddies die and you're mad about that. The fact that people aren't smart enough to even look up what that's for before they criticize it. And I guarantee you, none of them said a word when Biden surrendered Afghanistan, killed 13 of us.

So Johnny Joey left a significant piece of his own body overseas fighting for the rest of us that didn't have to do that. And didn't sign up for it, but he did. So I think Johnny Joey deserved his couple minutes on the show today. You see how Johnny Joey talks about his sacrifice as well? Did you guys catch it? How matter of fact is he's like, yeah, so, uh, I really was hungry for the steak and the lobster because we're eating these MREs, and I got blown up. And basically he talks about it like that. You want to talk about a hero? The guy's talking about losing his legs like it's like nothing while he's talking about steak and lobster. Like steak and lobster. Of all the shit I care about in this country, what I care about the least is how many servings of steak and lobster our heroes get. You actually— I care about the most because I want to have as many as possible. If they want caviar— I don't like caviar, not my bag of donuts. I'd rather have a bag of donuts. Give them caviar, shovel it down their throats.

I don't care. They want sushi. Give them sushi. Freeze that thing so there's no, like, parasites or anything. I don't care. Middle East sushi. Yeah, Middle East sushi could be dangerous. I don't care. Find a way to refrigerate it. This poor guy loses his legs and he talks about his friend. And my other friend got blown up and he died again. And we're worried about steak and eggs and lobster, whatever. I wasn't even going to bring it up again today, but I'm just— as a guy who did not serve in our military, and I'm telling you, regretted his whole life. Like, I— whatever, I thought about it a thousand times. I just have the deepest sense of gratitude to people who do. What do they do it for? What do you do? You think they're doing it for the money? No, ask yourself that. What do you think the military pays? Like, uh, starting at 6 figures, company car and a MetroCard. Like, they get none of that shit. They don't even get the MetroCard. You got people working in the Pentagon, like brilliant, brilliant people, making less than like a mid-level engineer at IBM.

Meanwhile, what the hell you think they're serving for? What do you think these people are in war zones for? The pension? They're doing it because they believe in something greater than themselves, and we all owe them a debt of gratitude. And yes, that's the America we live in, not the MAGA civil war bullshit liberal media. This is so broken, it's all falling apart. Get out of here with that shit. That's why my next guest coming up in just a few minutes, Graham Allen, who served himself as a combat engineer in the military and went back at the beginning of the Trump administration to help for a little while. He, you know, we'll discuss this point here, how you get these liberals and these others on the sidelines like throwing popcorn at people actually in the ring doing it. Like, whatever, man, you have the right to an opinion, but it doesn't really matter to me. These people deserve our respect in our military. All right, quick break and we'll get to Graham. You're really gonna— you know Graham, by the way? How many in the chat watch his show? 9 AM. You got a great lineup on Rumble, by the way.

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My good friend, man who served this country honorably as a combat engineer in the military, my friend Graham Allen. Graham, welcome to the show.

Uh, Dan, thank you. It's a, it's an honor to be here. You say I, you know, I do you a favor rating into you. Now, yeah, it's, it's a, it's an honor of us to be able to be the lead-in show for the Podfather, the greatest to do it. So, uh, yeah, it's a privilege.

It's a privilege. Oh, thank you, brother. Uh, you're a good man. We've been friends for so long. I can't believe it's taken this long, but I want to have you back regularly, as we were just chatting about, um, before the show. You know, you're a great guest here. I want to get to this first. You know, you have been really vocal about some of the cancerous rot pretending to be part of our movement. Um, you know, a lot of this stuff going on right now with the, the Charlie Kirk conspiracies, what Candace is putting out there. And I've addressed this on a bigger picture, how we can never become the cannibalistic left that starts eating its own. They did this. The left did this to itself. They destroyed their movement with men in the women's room, defund the police, just raw stupidity. But Graham, unfortunately, there are people infiltrating our movement that are using this old tried and sadly not true technique, but it does work, of overloading and bombarding people with facts and totally underwhelming people with evidence. That is not— that's the mark of a moron. The way smart people work is they drown out irrelevant stimulus, irrelevant facts, and they get to the heart of the matter right away.

I'm getting tired of this shit, man. This is creating a really dangerous situation for a lot of people out there, and it's just rotting our movement.

Yeah, no, I— and, and yes, I've been very vocal about it. It's led to, uh, it's led to a lot of pain and a lot of, uh, irritation. Uh, I, I would argue that these people, these specific people, and, and The hard part is for me, the same that it is for you. I know these people. I know these people just like, you know, these people. And it's so, so when people attack me for saying something about Candace, I always am like, you don't know. Can I know Candace? You know, my very first book, there's a blurb from Candace Owens talking about how much she loves me on the book. And now she hates my guts. I would argue that a lot of these people that are the cancers that we're seeing right now. You look at them, you look at the people that are either just doing the most evil and demonic— those are the keywords, right, that we're getting paid to say, evil and demonic? And I just want to make sure that I—

did you cash your check? You can't— you get it? Sure. Yeah.

Okay, okay. Right.

And demonic, just so— right. If you don't say them both, right, you don't get your mystery paycheck that magically never appears in any way.

What's back? What I loved is that fake campaign that's been proven fake. They had— they said that I was the ringleader on the paper there and that you and Ben Shapiro were also there. And I'm like, well, why am I the ringleader if Dan Bongino is getting paid to do this stuff anyway? But moving forward, that was proven fake, by the way, for the trolls. I would argue that these people that are doing it right now, you look at Candace, you look at Tucker, you look at Megyn Kelly, and you look at all these people, I, I'm now convinced. I mean, we know Megyn Kelly was not a Trumper in the beginning. Tucker Carlson has been all over the place. And we know Candace Owens wasn't a Trumper in the beginning either. I'm beginning to believe that these people are people that just want power. They want influence. They want so-called authority. And they're moving and shifting with the times. And right now, the times are this is President Trump's last term in office. It's now time to— if you got problems with President Trump, it's now time for you to do that because that's now the cool thing to do.

Now, people like us, me and you, Dan, that I've been told my entire life I can't go speak in a church because I'm too aggressive and I'm too divisive and I'm too this. Now people call me this swamp creature because I'm not aggressive enough. I'm not radical enough. And I'll tell you something, if I'm allowed to vent for 2 seconds, Dan, because of course very few people understand like me and you understand, and especially you. We talked about this at the same time when we both were talking about at the time it was rumored you might be going to the Secret Service, head of the Secret Service. We didn't know about the FBI thing yet. I got the call to go help out Secretary Hegseth over at the Pentagon. The same audience that is now turning against people like us and they're following this cancerous movement. They're the audience that were begging people like me and you to give up our shows, give up the money, have to let people go because the money was gone to go serve the country yet again. And now we show back up to say, hey, it's worse than you think it is over there.

All right. Yeah, there's still a lot of work to do. And for those that you think that it was going to be done in 90 days, you're a moron. That's not how reality actually works. Now they call us feds. Now they call me and you bought and paid for opposition. And I love any time you question the people that are just asking questions. You are not allowed to ask. They're allowed to ask questions, but we're not to. That makes us feds. That makes us paid opposition. There's these make-believe people that are paying you, me and you millions of dollars to go against them. It's a, it's a psychosis that is taking over our movement, and it's been done by people, in my opinion, that have been wolves in sheep's clothing the entire time.

You know, Graham, you and I have had shows for a pretty long time. I, I started my show well over 10 years ago, and, uh, the way we've managed to stay consistent over a decade and stay at the top of this podcast and radio space for 4 years as well is you got to prune the tree once in a while. You do. If you're doing this lick your finger and just constantly try to make a certain segment of your audience happy by saying whatever they want rather than what you know it's true, the people who crave authenticity, even if they don't agree with you, are going to say, 'F this guy, I'm out of here.' So what happens, I found— and I've, I've, I've told this to probably 100 people who've called me and asked me about podcasting, 'How do I get started? How do I do guests, whatever. I tell them about every 2, 3 years, I don't know, roughly, maybe an election cycle every 4 years, something's gonna happen. A primary, you know, the DeSantis-Trump primary was hot. A lot of DeSantis, I love Ron DeSantis. I love Ron, I've always loved Ron, but I supported President Trump.

A lot of his people got upset. I'm leaving, I'm leaving your show. Oh, okay, that's okay. I had a different opinion. You lose a few of those people, but because you stay true to that narrative, that North Star— or that, that lodestar, excuse me— over time, you wind up having that linear growth because people know that you're not bullshitting them. Even when you— even when I was on the inside, you have to tell people things that are really uncomfortable, but you have to tell them where the evidence goes. You can't just bullshit people, because I'm telling you, man, there— don't— please God, and I'm not using his name in vain because we need him right now— do not treat your audience like freaking idiots. They are not stupid. They sniff through BS, and you don't want a stupid audience. Sometimes you got to prune the tree from some people who just want you to lie to them. I'm not going to do that. I know you don't either.

Yeah, no, I tell people all the time, I'm here to tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear. Uh, and the biggest thing I'll say on this, just, just to nip this part in the bud here, is the people that— I'm all about asking questions. I'm all about challenging narratives. I'm all about draining the swamp. But people who only ask questions that are interested in solutions, that are interested in the actual battle plan to fix the problem, they're not doing us any good because all they're doing is driving more chaos, more division, more fear, more psychosis. There is a problem with only asking questions and not the other side of it, which is finding the solutions.

Yeah, I agree, uh, folks. We're talking to Graham Allen. If you're listening on Apple or Spotify, you don't see him on the screen. Uh, Graham like, uh, graham cracker. Allen, A-L-L-E-N. Please look him up on Rumble. Check him out. His show airs right before mine at 9 o'clock and right after Vince at 8. It's a solid 8, 9, 10. Can't go wrong. Vince, Graham, Dan. Vince, Graham, you can't beat it. That's great. You got entertainment, you got entertainment for hours, and you Crowder after me, and then Haley. You can watch Rumble all morning. It's a fantastic lineup. Now, you served, uh, you served the American people honorably in the military, the combat engineer. I've got to get your opinion on— I, I know it's a stupid story. I, I understand, of course, steak and lobster gate. Um, I get it. I did not serve in the military. However, the story was so obviously stupid from the start because of the numbers. That Secretary Hegseth, of course, in the Department of War, had purchased something like $10 million of steak and lobster last month. Now, it's fairly obvious— you and I know Pete very well. Pete eats well, but he does not consume $10 million of steak or lobster— that it was not for him.

So, right, yeah, you know, you served in a news— so you've eaten MREs. They're not horrendous like they used to be. They're, they're edible, but they're not great. If our troops want to eat steak and lobster in the DFAC once in a while because they get this like luxury maybe once or twice a month, good for them. Feed them that stuff every freaking morning, you media dipshits.

Yeah, well, you know, my, my thing that I, you know, I actually texted the secretary, I was like, where's mine? Like, where's my back pay on steak and lobster? Because I didn't, I didn't get any that when I was in there.

Me either. You know what I ate every day at DC? I ate freaking Sweetgreen. Now I had a salad every day. I, I paid for it myself.

No steak and lobster. Yeah, no, no, there wasn't. Look, and I want to be clear, Dan, because, because I always want to clear this up, because you want to talk about toxicity. Unfortunately, toxicity in the, the veteran online community is just as bad sometimes. I was just a normal guy. I want to be clear on that. I was a I was a comms NCO for a combat engineer team attached to an RSD/PSD team and then route clearance and all of that stuff. So I got to sit inside, look for bombs. I got to do the whole, the whole nine yards. But I wasn't anything special. There's so many people that did more than me. However, the fact that Democrats and the fake news and all these people have any issues at all with us feeding our, our men and women who continue to wear the uniform, And I served under a time. I mean, unfortunately, it was Bush and Obama, but at least I didn't have to serve under Biden. And there's a lot of these people that are still in and chose to stay in under Joe Biden. God bless them for it. And if we can fill them with steak and lobster as much as humanly possible, who gives a teetotal crap about any of this stuff, man?

Look, I was personally at the Pentagon. I know how much the secretary and everybody slaved over cutting and cutting and cutting and cutting spending. We would be in his office all the time. We got to cut more. We got to trim more. We have a responsibility to the American taxpayer. All of that, that, that is your secretary of war. And let me tell you, just again, to toot the horn of the guy that I got to serve under in D.C., Pete Hegseth, was a good choice for Secretary of Defense. He was a generational pick for Secretary of War. I love that guy. I think he's doing an amazing job, and he was the man for the moment that we currently find ourselves in.

And Graham, you know, pointing out left-wing hypocrisy is like— I was like, hello, Captain Obvious moment. However, it's worth noting the left-wing media did everything they could to bury the Minnesota Somali fraud story, which by the way was 100 times the spending of a steak lobster dinner for our heroes, heroes, heroes, heroes, and patriots. And they didn't give a shit about that story, which should tell you one thing. So now we know it's not about the money because you didn't care about the Minnesota story or the California hospice fraud story. Those things get buried. But you'll give hours of wall-to-wall coverage on our troops eating steak and lobster. So what is it really about? What it's really about is an attack on Pete Solowinski, personal politics, personalize it, isolate it, attack him personally. And it's about an attack, of course, on President Donald Trump, who they just hate. This is not about any principles at all.

100%. And that's why I encourage so many people, you know, the midterms are so important. Because the Democrats have already told us what they're going to do. We already know what's going to happen if we lose the House and the Senate. They're going to impeach President Trump again and succeed all the way through both chambers. This time they're going to pull Secretary Hegseth in and they're going to charge him with war crimes. You're going to see every other senior cabinet-level official in, in, in testimony after testimony after testimony over and over and over again. I tell everybody I got book coming out right before the midterms. And the whole purpose is to remind the American people that the end of an election where we win is not the finish line. That's the starting point. And it resets over and over and over again. Every, every 2 years you get the off cycle, but then every 4 years you've got the presidential cycle. And it is a constant battle over and over and over again. And Republicans like to win. And then we like to kind of do this and say, oh, well, we won, it's over, right?

No, it's a new season. Just like a football team, it's a new season over and over and over again. Nobody gives a crap you won the national championship last year. What are you going to do this year? What are you going to do this year? And so that's why it's so important, because it's not about Pete so much as it is about going after President Trump. And you go after President Trump by going after everyone that he put trust in. That's you too, Dan. That's me. We were all on the watch lists by the Biden FBI and all of these things. If we thought it was bad in 2020, just wait and see what happens if we lose the midterms in '26.

You know, Graham, I'm so glad you said that. I am. We're going to do an extended interview show at some point on the weekend. You and I are going to just hang out for like a couple hours and drink some wine or some whatever, man. Some tequila, whatever you want, man. We're just going to But you brought up a good point. I had a couple questions. I'm hopeful I'll get to them, but I want to bring this up too, that I know you went back and Pete asked you to come on, help out in the beginning. You gave up your show, man. Listen, your show, that was— we spoke about it, you and I. You remember the conversation? And you're in a different spot. Like, uh, listen folks, this is not meant to be a, hey, look at me, but, but I had been on 10 years, had a pretty established audience. You were like rocketing up, geometric growth, and you agreed to go back and say, yeah, I'll help you out in the beginning. And I said to you, man, brother, that takes a lot of balls. It really did. I mean, you guys, you really— I, I was unbelievably impressed.

You know it, we spoke about it. But I think you're right when you say it, that I hope no one here is under the illusion that either you, me, or Pete, or anyone else thought we were going in there to be like Avengers or superheroes. We knew damn well, like, yeah, Okay, great, get the job done, come back out.

And we had a—

we had a lot of great moments, just like Pete has. But make no mistake, we understood damn well that the second something breaks bad, that you're in charge too. That's it. I mean, like, that's the difference, I think, between a good strong conservative appointed by Donald Trump and a lot of these weak-kneed assholes that Biden and Obama appointed. Every time something happened with Mayorkas someone else. They were like— wasn't it? It was like the Beavis and Butt-Head approach. It wasn't me, man. It was like other kids. No, no, it's not other kids. It's us. Own it. American people are very forgiving. Own it. Say you screwed it up, you know, and move on. That's the difference between us and them.

Yeah, no, I, I agree. It was an experience that I, uh, I'd rather go back to Iraq again than to go back there, if I'm just being honest. I'm not— I've learned to never say never in my life. You know, if the president ever called again, you know, I would cross that bridge when we come to it. But man, it's— it was such an experience to be able to go in and see, because even I had the naivety to think, oh, all we got to do is win this election and then we got it. And then the people are going to go in there and they're going to do their thing. You don't realize, especially, you know, you were on the FBI side, I was on the DOW side, you know, the Department of War employs over 3 million people. And, you know, political appointees at the time I got there, there was about 7 of us to 3 million people. Now they've got like 100+ or something like that. But either way, you got to remember some of these people that are still in the DOW were there when Bush was there. And these people people like, like we would have malicious compliance.

Like these people would legitimately— we would know that they say, all we got to do is wait these guys out, wait these guys out, and they'll be gone. And we can go back and do whatever we can. And all these people are like, well, why didn't you fire anybody?

Why?

We did. And then these leftist judges said, nope, you can't fire them. Then you had that awkward thing where they all came back and then all this.

It is— Graham, we had the same problem. There's— you just— I summed it up in my show when I first came back. There is an attitude amongst public servants, servants, public servants. There is an attitude there, I would assume from what you just said at DOW, but I saw it in DOJ and FBI that like, this is our FBI. We're going to wait you scumbags out and we're just going to wait for the next Democrat. It's not yours. They act— did you get the feeling? That the old— and I'm not talking about all of them, like, obviously you have patriots who serve in the military. We had great people over there at the Bureau too, but there were a lot of shitheads, just to be honest, who were just like, yeah, wanted the old weaponized ways. They had this attitude like we were like usurpers, like we were there, like we were appointed and like by the mob or something. And I used to tell these guys, because we had a big conference room, I'd be like, hey, there's the door, get the fuck out of here. Like right now, if you had any balls, because you're right, getting rid of people is insanely difficult.

They sue, they get their jobs back. It's the most incredible system ever. It's the only CEO in the world where you actually can't get rid of people in the executive branch. But I'd be like, if you had any, a pair of nuts on you right now, you know, you right there, get the fuck out of here and resign. And they won't do it. So you want it both ways. You want to bitch and moan about the leadership. And you want to keep collecting a paycheck. You just— that ticked me off because I bet you saw the same thing. Like, they own it. You don't own shit. You work for the taxpayers, bro.

Yeah, yeah. They operate as they're entitled to get there. And so again, that brings me back to my point about the midterms that, you know, when I came back to the show, one of the first things I said was this is kind of like my Paul Revere type moment where I'm trying to tell you, like, The enemy is not gone. The enemy, like, we beat them in 2024, but that was just a battle. It wasn't the final war. It wasn't the endgame. It wasn't any of that kind of stuff. It was just another battle in the battles that move forward and the battles to come. We need to win 10, 12, 14, 16 election cycles in a row to truly eradicate decades upon decades upon decades of corruption that has been allowed to go on for so long in D.C. And it's not just D.C., it's the state GOPs as well. I've got my problems with the state GOPs just as much as I do Washington, D.C. But that's why people can't have this battle fatigue that we're seeing. We're seeing this, oh, well, we're not getting 1 million percent of everything that we thought we would.

In this certain amount of time frame, so we're done. You see people like Nick Fuentes and all these other people and Candace Owens either saying, I'm not voting at all, or I'm voting Democrat, or screw your elections, I think is a direct quote from Candace Owens. Well, here's my thing. You might not like how everything has gone.

Fair.

That's a fair thing, Dan. They could say you were the worst deputy director of the FBI in history, which is not true, but they could say that. They could say, Graham, you were a piece of garbage in the Pentagon and you didn't do a dang thing. Okay, fine. At least we tried and at least we did something. All these other people, we know what happens if the Democrats win. So your plan is just to let the whole freaking country burn and set on fire because it didn't happen how you thought you would do it? Because you want to Monday morning quarterback and say, oh, how did the quarterback not see that open receiver when he's got 4 freight trains running at him at the same time. Screw you guys. Like, that's really what I want to say a lot of times to people is if you are not in the fight and you didn't volunteer to go in it, you're just sitting there on the sidelines, then continue to sit on the sidelines and do your job. Your job is to show up on voting day and to vote for the people that represent your values.

And if it sounds like I'm a little angry, I'm kind of self-processing as we talk here. Because I am a little angry because we just had an American hero get murdered on American soil. Lieutenant Colonel Shaw was his name at Old Dominion University. And I looked at his— I looked at his rack on his dress uniform. This guy deployed 7 times to Iraq and Afghanistan only to get gunned down by an Islamic jihadist terrorist right here on American soil. And we're worried about the Jews and we're worried about, oh, well, Trump said something that hurt my feelings. What are you freaking talking about? We have an invasion going on right now that was, that was allowed to happen under Joe Biden, letting millions of these sleeper cell terrorists come into our country. And you want to talk to me about the Jews run everything? But yet the most predominant voices in the, in the space right now are the most anti-Jew They hate the Jews. The Jews are just stupid in their takeover of America, and they allow these people that hate them so much to be the people they appointed.

Some strange emissaries.

If they're— it's— this is the psychosis. And I mean, no one—

it just grabs me.

Here's what I like.

Wait, you're not— neither one of us are denying that these people have a substantial audience. They do. I'm just disagreeing with their premise. And I think point is accurate. Like, man, if the Jews run everything, they're doing a really terrible job. It's like when I used to say, like, people say Donald Trump's a racist. I'm like, man, he's a really shitty racist. He's got like the largest portion of the Black vote we've seen. He like cleaned up Chicago and largely minority cities. The crime rate in New York's at like a historic low. Like, man, this guy really sucks at being a racist. So yeah, those Jews are really terrible at appointing people in charge. Listen, I, I gotta run. But I just— well, I want to just promote your show again quickly, but I just want to say with regards to that too, you know, I agree there's always going to be people who throw popcorn from the cheap seats, and that's cool. But I know what, like, Parnell, Hegseth, you, people who just volunteered to go in and do, you know, just get in there in the beginning, help clean up. I know we did.

I am absolutely confident. I'm looking the audience in the face. You're absolutely confident. That when this 4 years is up, DOW, FBI, and I am absolutely confident, just because you don't see everything happening now, I promise you, you just don't know what's happening behind the scenes. Bookmark this. I promise you, at the end of 4 years, you're going to look back and go like, wow, he wasn't kidding. There really was a lot happening. Some things just take a longer timeline. The Pentagon, like you said, 3 million employees. You think you're going to clean up a multi, multi, multi-billion, close to trillion-dollar budget with 3 million employees overnight? Like, are you kidding? You know how long it took to build that bureaucracy? So, you know, just give it the 4 years and I promise everything's going to be good. So, Graham, listen, let's make this a regular thing. I want people to find you at rumble.com. Download the Rumble app. Make sure you check out Graham Allen live, 9 AM Eastern time. Go from Vince to Graham to me to Crowder to Haley. Stay on Rumble all day. Grandma's great perspective as always, man. Always good to talk to you, buddy.

Thanks for coming on. Thanks, Dan. Thank you for everything you do. We appreciate it. And, uh, yeah, I appreciate your friendship.

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